Richard Cloutier: 2012/2013: Hockey Self-Destructs

Richard Cloutier: 2012/2013: Hockey Self-Destructs
- Maxbone

Amen brother!

I don't usually complain about your length of rant but I had to skip over most of that.

that being said:

Agree that the Can WJC team was not ready to compete in a Euro style tournament. and that cost them.

As for the lockout...really what can be said at this point...just counting down to the 12th when it will be official one way or another.

Pretty sure if they fought it out in the courtroom we would miss the 2013-2014 season as well.

And for team Canada I dont entirely agree, they did blow up some teams out of the water (even the mighty Russians 4-1) .

I just think team USA came prepared and took advantage of a weavering goalie ,I didnt see the game but when Subban lets in 4 goals out of 16 shots there is not much the 12 other guys can do about it.

I can't comment as to its accuracy, but there was a tweet yesterday that during an interview, Fay Vincent said that Don Fehr had told him that he doesn't care for the game of baseball. If that's the case, and he's feels the same way for hockey, I have a feeling that the players and their leadership are on two separate pages. They'll get their money soon, but there won't be a 30 team league to employ them all down the road.

Richard Cloutier: 2012/2013: Hockey Self-Destructs
- Maxbone

Feel better Now?

Well said.

The scheduling was brutal for the wjc. The only Canada game not played at 4am was the game against Russia. Not sure why the main draw teams were all played when no one in Russia, Europe, or North America was at home in time or at a time to support them. Also in terms of the USA supporting hockey; it has to start with the broadcasting. In Canada the wjc was televised twice a day. In the USA (in Kentucky anyway) the games aren't even on one of the espn channels or any channel for that matter. Not the USA vs. Canada game not even at 4am when nothing else is worth watching, not even an article in the newspaper. Pathetic.

Ryan PP Specialist Murphy totaled a slick 0 points while being on the top PP unit the whole time Murphygeddon!

Richard Cloutier: 2012/2013: Hockey Self-Destructs
- Maxbone

I love you give the U.S. the smallest amount of credit while blaming the loss on the fact that Canadians were slower and Malcom Subban caved under pressure. Of the 4 goals that were scored against Subban, the only one that he should have stopped was the 4th. The goals that McCabe scored were impossible to stop because he was screened on both of the shots. Especially on the 1st one, their were 5 guys in front of him. The 3rd goals was an absolute snipe by Gaudreau. He made Murphy look silly and went top shelf right past Subban's ear. The Candians didn't lose the game because they were slower in terms of skating. They came out flat in the first period, it happen somet times.

Ryan PP Specialist Murphy totaled a slick 0 points while being on the top PP unit the whole time Murphygeddon!
- AdamFrench

Coaching issues were the reason, I totally agree.. Sad really.

Well said.

The scheduling was brutal for the wjc. The only Canada game not played at 4am was the game against Russia. Not sure why the main draw teams were all played when no one in Russia, Europe, or North America was at home in time or at a time to support them. Also in terms of the USA supporting hockey; it has to start with the broadcasting. In Canada the wjc was televised twice a day. In the USA (in Kentucky anyway) the games aren't even on one of the espn channels or any channel for that matter. Not the USA vs. Canada game not even at 4am when nothing else is worth watching, not even an article in the newspaper. Pathetic.
- GregMorris

was on the nhl network.

My question: Why the hell was Ryan Murphy on the team? He, along with Hamilton, had to be the worst PP defence pair I've ever seen from Canada.

As you pointed out, Ceci should have been there in his place, yet he didn't even get invited to camp! Was Spott scared that Ceci would outshine has boy, Murphy?

The 67's are one of the worst teams in the country. (2nd last in the OHL) and Ceci is almost at a point per game. Contrast that with Murphy who has 4.. yep.. 4 goals this season.

Canada was truly missing a PP specialist. I'm not saying that it was the difference between winning and losing yesterday, but that was a poor decision and reeked of homerism.

was on the nhl network.
- tomburton99

Is that an additional subscribed service to regular cable? The coverage is Still brutal in the USA. TSN covered it in Canada and anyone with regular cable in Canada would get it.

I love you give the U.S. the smallest amount of credit while blaming the loss on the fact that Canadians were slower and Malcom Subban caved under pressure. Of the 4 goals that were scored against Subban, the only one that he should have stopped was the 4th. The goals that McCabe scored were impossible to stop because he was screened on both of the shots. Especially on the 1st one, their were 5 guys in front of him. The 3rd goals was an absolute snipe by Gaudreau. He made Murphy look silly and went top shelf right past Subban's ear. The Candians didn't lose the game because they were slower in terms of skating. They came out flat in the first period, it happen somet times.
- tomburton99

I disagree to a point. Clout's gave complete credit to Team USA, but it was a complete let down on Team Canada that made it a blowout. the defensive coverage was terrible on most of the 4 goals.

but it is what it is

I love you give the U.S. the smallest amount of credit while blaming the loss on the fact that Canadians were slower and Malcom Subban caved under pressure. Of the 4 goals that were scored against Subban, the only one that he should have stopped was the 4th. The goals that McCabe scored were impossible to stop because he was screened on both of the shots. Especially on the 1st one, their were 5 guys in front of him. The 3rd goals was an absolute snipe by Gaudreau. He made Murphy look silly and went top shelf right past Subban's ear. The Candians didn't lose the game because they were slower in terms of skating. They came out flat in the first period, it happen somet times.
- tomburton99

3 goals top corner glove, 1 goal top corner blocker.

"made murphy look silly" - thats because hes a poop D man and shouldnt have been on the team.

there were many factors, coaching, scouts to pick the team, the lines, players like huberdeau (who was by far the worst in my opinion).

not playing that quarter final game hurt the team more than it helped. when your under 20, playing every day, your legs can deal with it for a couple weeks. when your 35 playing 5 games in 6 days its a whole other story.

bottom line, USA played their best game, canada played their worst.

= usa win.

to say the USA has a better team is nonsense, canada won a game, USA won a game, they just happend to win the game that counted for something more.

i was not a fan of the canadian coaching stuff, just throwin that out there.

I disagree to a point. Clout's gave complete credit to Team USA, but it was a complete let down on Team Canada that made it a blowout. the defensive coverage was terrible on most of the 4 goals.

but it is what it is
- OilHorse

the first goal had eyes, it was pure luck that it found the net.

but yeah not good back checking, nobody skating, everyone watching the puck.

I disagree to a point. Clout's gave complete credit to Team USA, but it was a complete let down on Team Canada that made it a blowout. the defensive coverage was terrible on most of the 4 goals.

but it is what it is
- OilHorse

Their, I agree with you. The Defense on both of the McCabe goals was not good. But, both goals Subban had no chance to stop them. What made Subban look bad was the fact that Binnington came in and played extremely well. He was excellent.

Richard Cloutier: 2012/2013: Hockey Self-Destructs
- Maxbone

I wonder if and how much exactly stamkos got paid to do the Nike commercial?

Richard Cloutier: 2012/2013: Hockey Self-Destructs
- Maxbone

I wonder if and how much exactly stamkos got paid to do the Nike commercial?

was on the nhl network.
- tomburton99

You mean www.NHL.com, a website I haven't gone to since June. It still should have had television coverage, especially if the game of hockey is to have any traction in the big USA market.

As a life long Leaf fan, old enough to have watched four cups!!, I have
To tell you that your blogs are a joy to read, Travis Yost a distant second.
Your take on both the CBA crap and the WJC's is bang on...
Spott et al are a joke ...he looks like a cross between Gollum and Honey Boo Boo
And his fixation for his buttboy Murphy is enough to make you blush

BTW we have a PP specialist...the best in the country ....his name
Is Rielly and his ass has been stapled, by Spott, to the bench while
The human pilon, DOUGIE (dont call me Doug) Hamilton and the masturbating
Machine ( I only want to play with myself) Murphy piss away opportunities

Too bad , there are some good boys on the squad....

Pretty good rant.

I am a big hockey fan and a huge Canadian booster.

But, I do like seeing team Canada get ripped every once and awhile. Full credit to the American kids. Canadian kids could not skate with them and that is enough to explain the outcome.

The TSN coverage is so biased it is embarrassing. Remember, they said before the tournament that this was a great team, no players were being held back by the NHL.

So, the American kids come out and smoke us. This is not a time for excuses. Why did we lose? American kids were better skaters, Seth Jones was the top Dman in front of his net and Gibson was far and away the better goaltender. We can try to lie to others. But we should not lie to ourselves.

Missing the final two years in a row. Perhaps we, and TSN, need to accept some reality

Their, I agree with you. The Defense on both of the McCabe goals was not good. But, both goals Subban had no chance to stop them. What made Subban look bad was the fact that Binnington came in and played extremely well. He was excellent.
- tomburton99

As I mentionned above, I know it's cheap to blame the guy in goal ........but in this case he is the guy to blame.

Agree about the Canada at WJHC. The people who put it together have to get it together pick best players for the tourney. Corrado best Dman at camp cut, why hold camp if it doesn't actually affect selection. High energy speedy forwards not picked or even invited with only a couple of exceptions.

As far as the CBA I am so tired of the pouting players talking about how they have to make all the concessions or compaining when something new is found in a new CBA proposal that's been changed. Hey guys couple of points, you are an employee making millions how ever this turns out you'll be rich, stop complaining like you're being ripped off or providing a essential service. Second read each new proposal cover to cover. You wanted to be treated with respect and as equals with the owners then have the business sense to read all of the proposal. I know its a lot of words and pages but thats what happens at the big boy table.

Lastly when salaries range from 550k to 10million a year to play a sport that you love, all travel, accommodations, meals and medical etc etc are paid for and 1st class you are not hard done by. Stop saying you just want to play, you don't. Guys in the echl just want to play, you just want to play under the absolute best circumstances and for the most money possible without regard for the health of the league you play in or the fans that enjoy and pay for it.

I blame the Nuge and Bettman for everything